Yukinoshita Yukino (雪ノ下 雪乃) & her tea pot. (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Rabukome wa Machigatte Iru. Oregairu My Youth Romantic Comedy Is Wrong, as I Expected. My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Oregairu Zoku My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU TOO! やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。 やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。続 俺ガイル 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。續 anime)

Oregairu Analysis – The (Secondary) Career Path of Hayama Hayato (葉山 隼人) is… [Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Season 2 Ep 11]

Hikigaya Hachiman (比企谷 八幡) tells Miura Yumiko (三浦 優美子) that Hayama Hayato (葉山 隼人) would choose the liberal arts. But is this answer correct? This Yahari analysis will reveal his (secondary) career path “that person” presumes in the story.

Before I will start

Hayama Hayato (葉山 隼人) is upset at Hikigaya Hachiman (比企谷 八幡) because he can see through him. (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Rabukome wa Machigatte Iru. Oregairu My Youth Romantic Comedy Is Wrong, as I Expected. My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Oregairu Zoku My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU TOO! やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。 やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。続 俺ガイル 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。續 anime ep 11)

While I was writing a post about Hachiman and Yumiko, I doubt if the sciences is Hayama’s path as Hachiman suspects or not. But I found out the most possible answer while I was collecting hints to write the previous analysis. That’s why I decided to write the career path Hayama chooses.

But before you will read this, I strongly recommend you to read LN v10, Yahari Zoku anime ss2 ep11 or manga -Monologue- v10-11 before proceeding.

ps.

  • Please read Attention page first, to let you understand that my all analyses are not 100% right.
  • Spoilers up ahead.
  • I recommend you to read/watch Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. (やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。), Oregairu (俺ガイル) LN/anime Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Zoku (やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。続)/manga Yahari Ore no Seishun Rabu Kome wa Machigatteiru. -Monologue- (やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。-妄言録-) before proceeding.
  • My English sucks, such, sub.

And before you will read this post, I recommend you to read these two analyses because it’s important to know the truth behind the conversation between Hachiman and Hayama during the marathon race and the after-party, also the major career path that Hayama is looking forward to it.


This is how Hikigaya Hachiman (比企谷 八幡) will reply if he knows the truth. (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Rabukome wa Machigatte Iru. Oregairu My Youth Romantic Comedy Is Wrong, as I Expected. My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Oregairu Zoku My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU TOO! やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。 やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。続 俺ガイル 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。續 anime ep 11)Oregairu Analysis – Why Does Hayama Hayato Want Him & Hikigaya Hachiman To Be Equal? And His Silent Plan.
In case you doubt why I wrote “secondary”, I recommend you to read this first because I revealed the career path that he claimed that he will not pick and choose but it is really important for his life.


Yukinoshita Haruno (雪ノ下 陽乃) says loudly that Hayama Hayato (葉山 隼人) is not. (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Rabukome wa Machigatte Iru. Oregairu Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Oregairu Zoku やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。 やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。続 俺ガイル 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。續 anime Ep 10)Oregairu Analysis – Arranged Marriage might Happen for real!?
At this point, I think you would read the post above already so it would be safe to tell you that the main career path of Hayama is the arranged marriage (or the engagement) between him and Yukinoshita Haruno (雪ノ下 陽乃).


I will tell you first that in the story, Hayama is going to follow two career paths. (??)

  1. The first one is the career path that I wrote in the post above that I think it is the arranged marriage (or even engagement) that his family and Yukinoshita family allowed their children, him and his crush to married.
  2. Another one is the career path that I assume that he chose to study in the next year and it is the choice that he asks the teacher to hide it from others. This career choice is the issue that I will analyze in this post.

Oregairu Analysis – Finally, “Y” in Hayama Hayato’s Heart Was Revealed.
If you are new to my blog or curious who is Hayama’s crush or “Y”, I will recommend you again to read this post. If you read it already, you can skip it to save time!


These two career paths are things he tries to conceal because his marriage will happen soon so he needs to prepare things to prevent any losses that are relationships or the surroundings around him so he can live in the society (that is the school) peacefully until graduation.

Aside from that main career choice that is arranged marriage, I will focus on which career path he wrote in his Prospective Career Path Questionnaire. Actually, he would write the normal choice that is not different from other people because if he wrote “to be married or husband” bluntly, a certain teacher who received his paper, will know the career path he chose and she would show some reactions in the story that indicates that she knows he will get married.

Hiratsuka Shizuka (平塚 静), the homeroom teacher of class 2F. Despite she needs to hide this because Hayama himself doesn’t want other people to know, it’s normal to assume that she reads his choice in the paper or he told her.

Hiratsuka Shizuka (平塚 静) is not pleased in Hikigaya Hachiman (比企谷 八幡)'s assay. (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Rabukome wa Machigatte Iru. Oregairu My Youth Romantic Comedy Is Wrong, as I Expected. My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。 俺ガイル 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。 anime ep 1)

However, after I read the conversation between her and Hachiman about various career paths that happens after she received Hayama’s form, it seems she doesn’t show any signs that reflect Hayama wrote something that surprises her at all. So I believe that she doesn’t know about this arranged marriage.

With these assumptions and hints, it means that Hayama would write a normal career path that might be sciences, liberal arts, sports, etc. Anything but that straightforward choice. It’s impossible that someone like him will write that kind of answer anyway.

Hiratsuka Shizuka (平塚 静) will not stand it!! (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Rabukome wa Machigatte Iru. Oregairu My Youth Romantic Comedy Is Wrong, as I Expected. My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。 俺ガイル 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。 anime ep 1)

And imagine when sensei knows that her student will get married soon, while she still…

Therefore, if my assumption about the marriage is correct, it doesn’t mean that he will resign from the school because he would get married soon. He can still study although his status will be changed. And I don’t think his parents will wish his educational background to be lower than theirs. Imagine if his background is just junior high school (because if his parents wish him to resign for real, he will not graduate from Sobu).

Since I couldn’t find any solid evidence for this issue, I searched any hints from other characters that Hachiman talks, to find any information about Hayama’s career path. And among them, there is one person who shares her/his assumptions. After I reviewed her and Hachiman’s thoughts many times, it appears that she is the only one who might reach the answer. And this person is Yukinoshita Yukino (雪ノ下 雪乃)!!

Yukinoshita Yukino (雪ノ下 雪乃) radiates dark energy. (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Rabukome wa Machigatte Iru. Oregairu My Youth Romantic Comedy Is Wrong, as I Expected. My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Oregairu Zoku My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU TOO! やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。 やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。続 俺ガイル 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。續 anime ep 11)

No, it’s true!

ps. the scene when she analyzes is not in anime and manga -Monologue-.

After the trio helps to prepare the academic and career center, they return to the club room and discuss Hayama’s path again. Yukino also gives her some opinions like this.

  1. Hayama would follow Haruno as the influence. – Sciences
  2. To establish the everlasting relationship with Yukinoshita family. – Liberal arts or other choices that it’s up to his parents.

When Hachiman is considering the second choice, he agrees and thinks more that there are many ways to continue that relationship such as the marital relationship. So it will be like this ⇓.

  1. Hayama would follow Haruno as the influence. – Sciences
  2. To maintain the close relationship with Yukinoshita family.
    1. Law firm – Liberal arts
    2. Any choices that his parents expect for him and the everlasting relationship. – Marriage

If my theory about the arranged marriage is true, it means he answers expectations of his parents by choosing 2) already. But I must consider which sciences or liberal arts will answer his own desire. Because he is the one who always answers expectations but if you realize his essence, his own expectation is the most important. This is his habit that never changes, no matter how long time will pass. I conclude from the truth from Hachiman’s words (??) that WW hides Hayama’s essence secretly in LN v8.


Hikigaya Hachiman (比企谷 八幡) Yukinoshita Haruno (雪ノ下 陽乃) Hayama Hayato (葉山 隼人) (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku ep4)Oregairu Analysis – The Conclusion of Yukinoshita Haruno’s Plan (Operation Fire Doughnut) & The TRUTH(s) behind Hayama Hayato’s Sacrifice for Hikigaya Hachiman (The Last Part).
If you doubt why Hayama’s essence or the truth about himself is hidden in Hachiman’s words, I decrypted them in this post. Click Ctrl+F and search “Hayama’s thought (Final TL)“.

Hikigaya Hachiman (比企谷 八幡) Hayama Hayato (葉山 隼人) (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku ep4)

And if you are going to explore this post, I recommend you to read one of his past that is hidden behind his words when he “seems” to talk with Hachiman after everyone left. Click Ctrl+F and search “The conversation between Haruno and Hayama (that happened in the past).” So you will find out why I think this is his habit that never changes, no matter how long time will pass.


That’s why, to know his secondary choice, I need to find his personal desire, by reviewing things he wants the most (or I don’t need to that), things he admires the most. If you read other analyses about this character in this blog, especially his love story and all of his plans to gain what he wants that happens in LN v6, 8, 10-11, it’s very easy to know the one who he always admires and follows her for a long time.

Yukinoshita Haruno (雪ノ下 陽乃) decides to approach Yukinoshita Yukino (雪ノ下 雪乃) more. (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Rabukome wa Machigatte Iru. Oregairu Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Oregairu Zoku やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。 やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。続 俺ガイル 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。續 anime Ep 12)

With Yukino’s assumptions along with Hachiman’s, although those two assumptions are just opinions only, if I bring all of his love story along with his monologue from the second memorandum, these hints reach the only answer that is sciences, the path his crush chose.


Oregairu Analysis – 2nd Memorandum: Or, It Can Be This Person’s Monologue. [Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru.]
After I read the second memorandum that is the inner monologue of the character who I am focusing on. Abnormal actions and feelings of the person indicate that his desire is the most important factor to find which path he chose for the higher education.


Maybe you would not believe that he chose sciences just for that, as same as other characters are surprised with Yumiko’s reason to choose the same path with her crush so she can stay with him longer. Actually, even if he intends to study sciences, it doesn’t mean he can study in the same room with Haruno. So I think that he is not so different from Yumiko or even some people in the world, he is just …satisfied to follow the one he always wants and doesn’t revolve other factors. His yearning is the single and clearer than other reasons.

If I collect these materials

  1. Yukino and Hachiman’s thoughts about sciences.
  2. Hayama’s feelings in the second memorandum in LN v10.
  3. His essence behind Hachiman’s word in v8.
  4. The conclusion from Hachiman that he assumes that Hayama chose sciences.
  5. And his love story in the story.

that most of them are his own story to this consideration, all of them specify that

he decided to choose sciences to follow Haruno.

 

 

Therefore, maybe he would even choose to study the same college with his crush so he can spend time in the same place with her at least 1 year. His self-satisfaction to pursue his sanctuary and get her attention are not things we can understand or agree with the logic.

Hayama Hayato can control the situation that Yukinoshita Haruno (雪ノ下 陽乃) caused it. (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Rabukome wa Machigatte Iru. Oregairu Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Oregairu Zoku やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。 やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。続 俺ガイル 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。續 anime Ep 12)

And if I introspect his career, it’s possible that he might choose to study Bachelor of Science degree in the same university as Haruno and might even look for any opportunity to work together with her (in her company that will be hers in the future since she is the heir of the family). If he got married to her and chose sciences, it’s not difficult for him to do these things since he has the right and it is natural for him to do so.

 

My assumptions this time might not be unbelievable (and I don’t feel it’s real either) but I consider from his actions during the school cultural festival in LN v6 that he always looks for any opportunities to be at the area where his crush lives by answering everyone’s expectations but he just wants to see her and makes Haru scores (it’s too bad his love rival gets all scores).


How he “blends” in with various situations during the festival to get close to her and gain her attention.

  1. The First Part – checks if Haruno joins this event, why he joins the music performance, and volunteer to help the committee.
  2. The Last Partuse asks his friends to buy time to find Sagami Minami (相模 南) that is helping her little sister, Yukino.

ps. Some scenes in LN are excluded in anime season1.


So to conclude his two career paths, the main choice is marriage and the secondary is sciences.

  1. Hayama would follow Haruno as the influence. – Sciences 
  2. To maintain the close relationship with Yukinoshita family.
    1. Law firm – Liberal arts
    2. Any choices that his parents expect for him and the everlasting relationship. – Marriage 

ps. I consider the sciences as his second choice because …the marriage answers his desire the most and impacts his life while the sciences answer his wish to follow the same route with his crush. Actually, if adults don’t plan this marriage, maybe he would not hide his career path from others because he still needs Yumiko’s protection until graduation. So letting her know his future path and follow him until he graduates from Sobu (and even the college) are necessary. And he knows well that she wants to stay with him.

Q: But he Might Choose liberal arts or Lawyer.

A: Possible. If he is not the one who always answers his own expectations, I think he might choose sciences to help company or liberal arts to support Yukinoshita’s company, follow his father and I think his skill to convince people is not something we can underestimate, if he chose to be the lawyer, he can support her, the heir of the family and their company. So liberal arts are the reasonable choice more than sciences if he wishes well for her future and family sincerely.

But after I realize that all of his plans to gain Haruno’s attention in the story, I need to consider his will as the important factor. Liberal Arts can’t answer his satisfaction to follow her in his college life while sciences can cover the whole area that Haruno lives, college and occupation. When he sees her as his sanctuary to ease his loneliness (from the second memorandum) while he overlooks everything even her feeling toward him, sciences are a bit unreasonable choice but for him, this is the only choice.

Hayama Hayato (葉山 隼人) WANT to volunteer to be the representative of volunteer organizations. (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Rabukome wa Machigatte Iru. Oregairu My Youth Romantic Comedy Is Wrong, as I Expected. My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。 俺ガイル 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。 anime ep 10)

Let me help (for my own purpose).

And choosing the liberal arts is the bad choice for him already since if my assumption about the marriage is correct, spending time with Yumiko in the third year would be …awkward for him because his status will not be single anymore. If he is desperate to avoid any negative emotions from girls (that he do this all times), providing her to choose the different choice from him is what I suspect that he did it and this can explain why he hides his decision from everyone.

Therefore, this can conclude how he thinks about his friends, not just Yumiko only, Tobe Kakeru (戸部 翔), Yamato (大和), Ooka (大岡), Ebina Hina (海老名姫菜) and Yuigahama Yui (由比ヶ浜 結衣).

Hayama Hayato (葉山 隼人) Yuigahama Yui (由比ヶ浜 結衣) Miura Yumiko (三浦 優美子) Ebina Hina (海老名 姫菜) Tobe Kakeru (戸部 翔) Ooka (大岡) Yamato (大和) in the classroom. (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Rabukome wa Machigatte Iru. Oregairu My Youth Romantic Comedy Is Wrong, as I Expected. My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Oregairu Zoku My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU TOO! やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。 やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。続 俺ガイル 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。續 ep1)

Q: But He Might Choose Other Choices…

A: It’s possible he might choose other paths but I can’t find his motivation toward them and other career paths don’t connect with two assumptions that Yukino analyzes.

Totsuka Saika (戸塚 彩加 ) thinks Hayama Hayato (葉山 隼人) will go well for sports.

  • Sports – Since he plays soccer seriously and his skill can advance to the higher level as Totsuka Saika (戸塚 彩加) says, he might choose this choice. But this path is not the same path as Haruno’s and it doesn’t answer his family’s expectation either.
  • International Liberal Studies course – …It would not surprises me if his parents want him to study this path but I can’t find any hint that points he chooses this.

Q: So it means Hachiman assumes correctly?

A: Yes, but not quite. When he doubts that Hayama will choose sciences but Hayama’s rejection makes him “misunderstand” and changes to another answer that is liberal arts.

Therefore, Hachiman suspects that Hayama would choose sciences because of many things as he explains. But Hayama doesn’t choose sciences because he wants to escape from everyone’s expectations or this reason is not the main reason (it’s because what I explained above that is following his crush).

However, although Hachiman is wrong to think that Hayama chose sciences because of that, I don’t think each assumption of him is wrong since it is 100% correct but his reason doesn’t relate to the second career choice of Hayama, it relates to the main career path instead. And it appears that the sciences would connect with Hayama’s personal desire. So what he says is correct but its matching is wrong IMO, each result connects with each cause instead like this. ⇓

Hachiman’s analysis
manage his surroundings so he can live peacefully (reason) ⇒ chooses sciences (result)

Hayama’s plans
1. The arranged marriage (reason) ⇒ manages his surroundings so he can live peacefully. (result)
2. follows his crush (reason) ⇒ chooses sciences (result)

Got it?

You can notice that [manage his surroundings ….peacefully] is the reason that Hachiman explains to Hayama. But it becomes the result of Hayama’s plans while sciences are still the result but it connects with other reason instead. Matching changes.

That’s why I think Hachiman’s analysis is not 100% correct but each assumption of him is 100% correct that it can explain why his explanation worries Hayama (that it’s very difficult to notice his worry at that time) because his rival can realize his plans and his insincere intentions. But he can deceive him by saying “another truth” (that is his silent plan that I wrote in Oregairu Analysis – Why Does Hayama Hayato Want Him & Hikigaya Hachiman To Be Equal? And His Silent Plan. above) to lie and hide all truths that Hachiman accused and even deceives even the speaker (Hayama himself) that he is not lying because he is saying the truth.

Hayama’s effort can trick Hachiman and hide two assumptions that Hachiman said that all of them are true because they are things that he doesn’t want his rival to reveal this to others or instruct others to choose the same path with him, that is his friend, Yumiko because if Hachiman’s assumption is not wrong (that I suspect that it’s true), Hayama is going to escaping from her expectation and betraying her.

Everyone’s expectations can be interpreted as everyone in the school for real or people who have high expectation to him, that is his friends. Even so, I still think that Yumiko (and even Isshiki Iroha (一色いろは)) are going to take the most damage from his decision (marriage and choosing different career path). So he can’t allow Hachiman to reveal his secondary choice and what he will do to that “everyone”.

And Hachiman follows the route Hayama directs, changes his assumption to liberal arts and tells Yumiko later. Again Hachiman helps him from problems unintentionally. This result reminds me of his warning toward Hachiman earlier when Hachiman asks him about his career path for the first time.

Hayama Hayato (葉山 隼人) is upset because he doesn't want Hikigaya Hachiman (比企谷 八幡) to ask his private matter. (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Rabukome wa Machigatte Iru. Oregairu My Youth Romantic Comedy Is Wrong, as I Expected. My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Oregairu Zoku My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU TOO! やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。 やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。続 俺ガイル 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。續 anime ep 11)

“As for your question earlier, I’ll leave the answer up to your imagination. I don’t know who asked you, but… if you make your choice without giving it any thought, you’re definitely going to regret it.

So what will Hachiman and Yumiko do if Hayama chose sciences for real while Hachiman told Yumiko that he would choose another (imagine their expressions…).

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After Hayama lies to Hachiman so Yumiko will not choose the same path as him, he can blame his rival after his career path is revealed that it is Hachiman’s imagination because he didn’t reject that he picked sciences and he didn’t say that he chose liberal arts either. You can review the conversation between both of them during the marathon race. Hayama never confirms his career path to Hachiman even once. This means he is going to let Hachiman feel guilty about his action because he told the wrong choice to Yumiko. And she chose the different path from her crush that is a very serious matter. So I suspect that Hayama is expecting Hachiman will suffer because this is his fault, not him!

If my assumption is true, then it means that Hayama would know which path Yumiko chooses but he doesn’t say anything?

Lastly, if the end of Oregairu is revealed, how will Hayama feel if he chose sciences to follow “Y” but “Y” he admires, gains freedom from her family and can decide her own life for the first time (include the career path she wants to study that I suspect that she wants to study society although choosing to study this is just my imagination)?

Nevertheless, choosing sciences is just my assumption that has no any solid evidence but with reasonable analyzing of Yukino and Hachiman and Hayama’s behavior and thoughts in various references help me reach this answer. So I recommend you do not believe me but check in LN or manga -Monologue-.

The next issue I “MIGHT” publish is “Why does Mrs.Yukinoshita cancel the prom?”. If I am not wrong, people who cause this problem is not Yukinoshita’s mother. (??) If what I suspect and hint are consistent, I will share it to you.

Yukinoshita Yukino (雪ノ下 雪乃) feels bad because of Hikigaya Hachiman (比企谷 八幡)'s solution. (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Rabukome wa Machigatte Iru. Oregairu My Youth Romantic Comedy Is Wrong, as I Expected. My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Oregairu Zoku My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU TOO! やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。 やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。続 俺ガイル 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。續 anime ep 7)

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If that person participates this cultural, he will do anything to get her attention and get close to her.

This memorandum is good evidence that tells us how he clings to that person.

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Just one call, and he will come to her faster than delivery.

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8 thoughts on “Oregairu Analysis – The (Secondary) Career Path of Hayama Hayato (葉山 隼人) is… [Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Season 2 Ep 11]

  1. Vladislav says:

    Thank you very much for this analysis :). I look forward to your next analysis about
    Mrs.Yukinoshita cancelling the prom. (I apologize if I made grammar mistakes. English is not my native language.)

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    • Bento says:

      I’m glad to hear it. I would publish this topic soon.

      Grammar mistake is my usual thing so I’m sorry if my Eng is not good too. X3

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      • Vladislav says:

        By the way, could you please explain to me, what did Haruno mean, by saying (in ln 12), that Hachiman can’t get drunk.

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        • Bento says:

          Thank you for your question, @Vladislav. I am not sure if my opinion is correct or not but I will do my best to explain.

          Haruno’s word this time is very difficult to understand but this has nothing to do with drinking alcohol. Her explanation about this help me understand it. Its objective is to defend themselves from outer surrounding, to not get hurt from other people. The one who are not drunk will not be affected from them while the one who are drunk will …cope with outer factors that are other people. Anyone who do something like this would confront with people who hurt them in the past. So they defend themselves by taking the role of the watcher so they will not take any effect from any negative things. And the actor or the one who are drunk is the same person but it is another version that is created to deal with those negative things.

          The watcher & actor
          True & lie
          The true self & the one who lies

          The one who are drunk & the one who are not are “the same person” but both of them are not bodies but minds, one of abstracts that they are very difficult to understand about both sides. So for Haruno’s case…

          The watcher
          there is Haruno who is the watcher and she is not drunk. This Haruno always has conscious, observes/and think how to deal with people outside. And since she is in the safe zone, she is safe from outer surrounding and has nothing to do with them, include with anything she presents to them, laugh, friendly, make merry, and etc. Because she separates herself from others. You can think that the watcher is her true self.

          The actor
          While the actor that is her too but her outer personality, not her true self but “another Haruno” who was created to deal with what she is scared or worried that is outer surrounding or other people.

          You can imagine when someone wants to live behind transparent wall that separates outside and inside. The origin of this action is the fear. You don’t need to get heavy mental damage to retreat to this state. If someone is scared of people, this is one way to defend her/himself. Anyone who is doing something like this, it means that person is obstructing their mind for her/his safety.

          But I don’t tell you that Haruno doesn’t want anyone understand her and her suffering. She just …is looking for someone who has that possibility. Someone who can understand her who is like this. But obstructing her mind to survive in the society is still exist in LN v12.

          I explain Haruno’s case because her case is the easiest case to understand the state of “can’t get drunk”. 8man’s case is more difficult to explain because it is difficult to notice his watcher and actor. Maybe it is because this LN is explained by him or I can’t classify between his true self and his action. That’s why it is hard to notice his state. But Haruno who is in this condition as well, can understand his state after she knew the truth that is his thought in LN v11-12. Because both of them are doing the same and he is the person she is looking for as Hayato told him. And it is difficult for me to know that 8man is in this state. But if WW presents his state via Haruno who declares that he can’t get drunk, and things 8man did recently, I had no choice but accept this truth.

          To notice if he is in this state or not, you can observe when Haruno talks with him in LN v12.

            When he tells her to be a good big sis who supports Yukino for real, she answers him that she is not like him who always is a good big bro. When he knows what she means so he needs to defend himself by taking some excuse that he is Komachi’s big bro. His word this time is defending himself from “danger” that is outer surrounding or Haruno who makes him worried or scared because she knows his thought. Why does he act as a good big bro to her sister? And his true intention. That’s why he uses his supporter “Komachi” to defend himself from Haruno. His excuse is like sweeping.
            Another case is when Haruno tells him that he will never be drunk. This time is not different from the previous. 8man is scared/worried because she knows his state. That is obstructing from outside to save himself from surrounding. The surrounding this time is not Haruno only but “other people”. So to defend himself again, he needs to reject her opinion by giving her excuses again with his two answers, “his future careers & alcohol” and “she is drunk”. I am not sure why he tells her that she is drunk but if I need to guess, I will guess that he wants to reject what she told him just now, or to empathize that she is drunk (drank alcohol) so her word is not believable.

          For 8man’s case if you know why he is a good big bro to Yukino or why he is nice to some younger girls who are like his younger sister, Komachi (Keika, Iroha), you will know the difference between his true self and his actions. Haruno’s declaration toward him “you will never be drunk” explains that she thinks he will be like this forever since he insists to be like that. His self-defend many times that she saw during LN v11-their conversation make her predict like this, believes that he will be like her who never be drunk, who lies to herself and others.

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          • Vladislav says:

            Thanks for the answer, i think i understand now. At the very beginning, i just watched anime only without reading LN, so I did not understand much. But thanks to you, much has become clearer =)

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            • Bento says:

              Watching anime only is still the way to enjoy this show. No anime no life. ^o^

              Feel free to ask anything if you are curious something in SNAFU. Although I am not a genius. If I can find the answer, I will share it to you. Some questions from readers became my inspiration to write more posts.

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  2. Phytitscian says:

    I like you… I mean your analysis hehehe. I am new here though and so far everything you have said sounds logical (the one about Hayama’s ‘Y’ and this one). I already have this forboding feeling that Hayama will play a great role on Vol11 onwards. I only watched the anime so I am really enjoying your analysis. =)

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    • Bento says:

      Hehe. Thank you for visiting my blog & liking my work, @Phytitscian.

      I too feel the same. If 8man & Yukino will save her sister from marriage in the future, Hayama & Mrs.Yukinoshita will take the great roles. This include after the news about his marriage is announced & everyone in the school would chat about this issue widely. It is like spot lights shine at him.

      Personally, I want anime ss3. I want to see how story will be in anime if they use material in LN v12-end to create. ^ ^

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