Hayama Hayato (葉山 隼人) forces Hikigaya Hachiman (比企谷 八幡) to join in the date indirectly. (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Rabukome wa Machigatte Iru. Oregairu My Youth Romantic Comedy Is Wrong, as I Expected. My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Oregairu Zoku My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU TOO! やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。 やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。続 俺ガイル 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。續 ep4)

Oregairu Analysis – The TRUTH(s) behind Hayato’s Sacrifice for Hachiman (Part 3)

Oregairu analysis focused on Hayama Hayato (葉山 隼人) during the doughnut cafe – Hayato’s heroic performance. And this post is part 3. In this part, I will reveal how Hayama is running his multidimensional plan when he, Hikigaya Hachiman (比企谷 八幡)Orimoto Kaori (折本 かおり) and Nakamachi Chika (仲町 千佳) “are having fun”. I think the one who is having fun this time are not Orimoto nor Nakasomething, but the one who will make Hachiman as a real victim.

Since Oregairu LN v12 will be descended to us soon in April, I will launch this part 3 of Hayama’s plan. To this point I will analyze when Hachiman was forced by Hayama (indirectly) and Yukinoshita Haruno (雪ノ下 陽乃) (directly) to this date group. And he can make Haruno feels interested in his intention that needed Hachiman to this group.

But before you will proceed.

ps.

  • Please read Attention page first, to let you understand that my all analysis are not 100% right.
  • Spoilers up ahead.
  • I recommend you to read/watch Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. (やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。), Oregairu (俺ガイル) LN/animeYahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Zoku (やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。続)/manga Yahari Ore no Seishun Rabu Kome wa Machigatteiru. -Monologue- (やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。-妄言録-) before proceed.

Before I will start…

I will tell you that after Hayama was rejected by Haruno and saw how different she treated himself and his love rival, Hachiman. These bitter scenes made his inferior complex toward his rival intensify. And this is not the first time that he felt like this. If you want to know more about this…


Oregairu Analysis – Finally, “Y” in Hayama Hayato’s Heart Was Revealed
If you want to know the first time, he felt inferior to his love rival, it happened before he will go to the summer vacation and meet with Hachiman again.

The first time he felt inferior toward his rival might not be severely. But his inferior complex is intensify during the School Cultural Festival. And it didn’t happen once, but …thrice.

Hayama Hayato (葉山 隼人) points "the worst ending" of the problem the planning committee to everyone. (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Rabukome wa Machigatte Iru. Oregairu My Youth Romantic Comedy Is Wrong, as I Expected. My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。 俺ガイル 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。 anime ep 10)

Oregairu Analysis – “LOVE Plan ♥” of Hayama Hayato During The Cultural Festival? The Time to Reveal This Has Come! (The First Part) – This post will reveal how his love plan started, and when he feels inferior toward his rival.

Oregairu Analysis – “LOVE Plan ♥” of Hayama Hayato During The Cultural Festival? The Time to Reveal This Has Come! (The Last Part) – this post also tell the same, and how his love plan ended.

Oregairu Analysis – And Then, Yukinoshita Haruno Launched Operation Fire Doughnut! (Part 4)
I recommend you to read Haruno’s operation Fire Doughnut (part 4) since this will explain [how Hayato prepares his multidimensional plan] indirectly too. There you will see how Haruno forced Hachiman to his plan too.


Even in LN v7, his inferior complex was shown again, because of his own fear made him swallow his own pride and let his love rival defeated him again. But he was the one who requested his rival to stop Tobe Kakeru (戸部 翔)‘s confession.


Before you will read this part 3, if you didn’t touch part 1&2 of Oregairu Analysis – The TRUTH(s) behind Hayato’s Sacrifice for Hachiman yet, I recommend you to read them first, so you will not be confused.

Oregairu Analysis – The TRUTH(s) behind Hayato’s Sacrifice for Hachiman (Part 1)

Oregairu Analysis – The TRUTH(s) behind Hayato’s Sacrifice for Hachiman (Part 2)


In the previous part of the truth(s) behind Hayama’s sacrifice for Hachiman, I wrote how he can drag [his love rival] and [the one he has feeling for] by using both of them to drag each other. As the result, he has both of them to be characters of his operation. But his manipulation still continue, now he will use more two characters to do something before the final scene will happen. And those characters are Orimoto and Nakasomething. They are girls who Haruno throw to him earlier. I will explain more how he will use both of them.

The date event
 Chiba Perfecture, Tokyo,
 LN v8, Anime Zoku ep 3-4, Manga -Monologue- v7

 Why are Orimoto and Nakasomething not surprised when Hachiman will go with them too?

While Hayama and Hachiman are waiting for Orimoto and her friend, Hachiman noticed when those girls came to them that they are not surprised he will be going with them too. And when he is seeing Hayama is talking something with them, he interprets that Hayama would be explaining about Hachiman will go with them too. But I notice something weird at this point.

If Orimoto and Nakasomething never know before that Hachiman will come with them too, at least they should be surprised when they saw him. And although Hayama explains about him to both of them, they should have reaction to Hachiman while Hayama is explaining (such as they turn at Hachiman). But they didn’t show any signal that they didn’t know that Hachiman will appear and will go with them. So I suspect that Hayama told both of them already. I assume that Hayama contacted with both of them via chat group or something like that so they will know at the same time. But although I’m not sure how Hayama sent this news to both of them, but I’m sure that Orimoto and her friend knew in advance that Hachiman will go with them too.

So I will assume that he would contact them about this news, after Haruno confirmed to him that Hachiman will go with the date group too. I will assume again that she would tell him she will observe to see his true intention why he needs Hachiman to this date group so much. With this, he was sure that he can lure her (using Hachiman as the bait) to his own plan.

This point is my own opinion only, but I suspect that he is the one who made them look down on Hachiman. Although those girls ever looked down on Hachiman while he and Haruno are hanging out together and Hayama didn’t witness their bad behavior. So I assume that even himself was not sure that those girls will look down on Hachiman or not. So if he wants those girls to bully his rival, he needs to make sure that they will do that for real. So when he told them that Hachiman will come with them too, he can tell them that Hachiman wants to go with them or something like that, he (Hayama) didn’t want him to come, but Hachiman insisted he will come, so he can’t refuse.

Hayama can trick himself or bend the truth that Hachiman insisted to come because Haruno forced him, but he can ignore about the reason why Hachiman must come. After he got call from Haruno that Hachiman will come, he (Hayama) can tell those girls that Hachiman insisted to come with them too, but of course, he didn’t tell those girls about someone and himself forced Hachiman to this date group (why he need to tell them he himself is the wire-puller?).

With this, he can make those girls feel disgusted in Hachiman. If he wants those girls to torture his rival before the finishing move in the future, he needs to make sure that these girls will bully Hachiman as much as possible. It’s no way Hachiman will know about this, because Hayama contacted with those girls only, and it’s no way those girls will contact Hachiman either.

Their considerateness toward Hachiman decreased with Hayama’s own hand. Because I feel that Orimoto and Nakasomething bullied Hachiman during this date group, is… too much, the level is more than when they did to him during the doughnut cafe, as if someone is manipulating them.

So right now he has 4 characters to his operation. Now it’s time to launch the multidimensional plan!!

How will Hayama use Orimoto and Nakamachi while they are having fun?

I mentioned before that his inferior complex, and the heavy damage from Haruno’s rejection are still fresh. Therefore, Hayama is making his rival as the victim that he liked to be so much (<- Hayama thought Hachiman liked to be a victim.). So with his ill will, he will make his rival to be the victim for real. I assume that he hates Hachiman from the bottom of his heart, like Haruno hates him from the bottom of her heart. So he will torture this loner Pawn his rival by using other Rooks these girls.

If you wonder how Hayama will use those girls to make his rival as the victim, I mentioned before about his manipulation via smartphone, but that’s not enough. If he can drag Hachiman to the date group, they will compare himself and his rival.

The most popular guy & the least popular guy

I assume that he will let those girls hurt his rival by he doesn’t need to do anything. He just activates his nice/cool aura to the maximum level, those girls will look at him admirably while they will look down on his rival by comparing between both of them. I notice that Hayama also has human observing skill like Hachiman and Haruno, so he knows that Nakasomething who wants to meet him, she would judge him by his outer appearance only.

If you disagree with me about this, it’s understanding. Because in other mediums (such as anime Zoku ep4, manga -Monologue- v7) showed that Hayama seems not feel well whenever Orimoto & her friend laughed at Hachiman. While LN v8, showed how he let those girls torture the one he hates the most. And you can see it works or not. Since we can read Hachiman’s thought in LN, you can see he tried his best to send logic data so he will not be bothered by those girls. But they still continue to compare him and the popular guy many times. I will explain why I have assumption like this later.

Imagine how Hayama is feeling when he is watching those girls torturing his rival to the point he almost falls?

Why is Yuigahama not with Yumiko and Ebina?

Hikigaya Hachiman (比企谷 八幡) notices Miura Yumiko (三浦 優美子) & Ebina Hina (海老名 姫菜). (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Rabukome wa Machigatte Iru. Oregairu My Youth Romantic Comedy Is Wrong, as I Expected. My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Oregairu Zoku My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU TOO! やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。 やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。続 俺ガイル 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。續 Ep 4)I will take a break about Hayama’s torture temporarily. Since this moment is important too (although it’s not much). While his date group are in the shopping center, Hachiman meets Ebina Hina (海老名 姫菜) and Miura Yumiko (三浦 優美子) there too. You will see he didn’t see Yuigahama Yui (由比ヶ浜 結衣) with them, so he thinks she would has some stuff to do. I will explain about this later since Hayama is the one who made her didn’t come shopping with her friends.

Yumiko might rain Hayama’s parade.

When Hachiman saw Yumiko fell over, he realized that he needed to warn Hayama. But when he tells Hayama to get out of there, he just checks his watch instead. However, I think he realized why Hachiman warned him, because when he decided to leave and told Orimoto and her friend as if he wants to go checking some stuff. Orimoto asked him what he will look at, he evades her question and just tell her that they should go first. So I assume that he wants to escape from the red zone immediately. And the next place they will go is the other floor while the red zone is the second floor.

I will say that Hayama’s plan in the date group is confidential, no one in his clique know about this. Because he didn’t want them (especially Yumiko) know he will go with two unknown girls, or else Yumiko who has feeling for him will be shocked. But it appeared that she witnessed him and two girls. If they know about his date group, he can’t launch the finishing move either. And if he still stays there, Yumiko might recover and come to him. She might glare to those girls and they might say goodbye to him and escape with the speed of sound or snowboard gears (don’t underestimate the glare of fire queen). If Orimoto and Nakasomething disappear, who will torture his love rival and he has nothing to launch the finishing move in the future.  So Yumiko will ruin his whole plan.

ps. I’m sorry I can’t analyze about p@ntsu of a certain character.

Isshiki almost rain Hayama’s parade.

After jump over the first obstacle (Yumiko) successfully, Hayama crashed the second obstacle. While he is heading to the the sixth floor, he meets his friend, Tobe Kakeru (戸部 翔) and Isshiki Iroha (一色いろは) near the escalator. Isshiki saw Hachiman and remembered him so she “asked” why he is here. But Hayama was the one who answered why he is here.

If you look via Hayama’s point of view, this junior is going to interfere his plan and when she approached to his rival, I feel that he feels uncomfortable because he wants his Re@lity M@rble stable as soon as possible, that’s why he deflected her attention instead. But his attempt almost failed because Isshiki offered the idea that all of them should go somewhere together but Tobe-senpai stopped her. So Hayama supported Tobe’s words by saying…

“You two were in the middle of shopping right…? Okay, Iroha, Tobe. I’ll catch you two later.

As Hayama’s plan started already so I don’t think he will let Isshiki nor Tobe to join in the group, because I assume that if both of them who Orimoto and Nakasomething didn’t know about them well, they will stay politely and stop torture Hachiman automatically. That’s not what he wants since both of them are not relate to his plan and they will save his love rival indirectly. I will say that he wants the stable environment to control everyone in this date group as much as possible.

Ebina Hina (海老名 姫菜) is worried Miura Yumiko (三浦 優美子)'s condition. (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Rabukome wa Machigatte Iru. Oregairu My Youth Romantic Comedy Is Wrong, as I Expected. My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Oregairu Zoku My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU TOO! やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。 やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。続 俺ガイル 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。續 Ep 4)

Yumiko and Ebina too, if both of them approaches to his group, Orimoto and Nakasomething will taste fire tornado from Yumiko. So if Orimoto and her friend might not escape from the group like I mentioned earlier, their minds will get heavy damage and will not enjoy to review Hachiman anymore.  So that’s why I assume that Hayama will not let other factors (people) interfere his Re@lity M@rble. So he decided to escape from Yumiko and Ebina, decided to tell drive his friend and junior to forego.

Another notice why I assumed that Orimoto and Nakasomething will be polite if Isshiki and Tobe will join the group, is Hachiman’s logic thought when he sees the behavior of Orimoto and her friends when they come to Hayama after yellow haired duo gone.

Hayama Hayato (葉山 隼人) drove Isshiki Iroha (一色いろは) & Tobe Kakeru (戸部 翔) away from his world. (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Rabukome wa Machigatte Iru. Oregairu My Youth Romantic Comedy Is Wrong, as I Expected. My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Oregairu Zoku My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU TOO! やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。 やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。続 俺ガイル 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。續 ep 4)

(Phew…)

He is lucky that his friend, Tobe has some propriety so he didn’t want to interfere his date group and told his kouhai to go somewhere, so it’s not too difficult for Hayama to drive other unnecessary factors away.

Why did Hayama devote himself to the soccer?

He told Orimoto that he started playing soccer seriously in the middle school. His answer made everyone surprised and even admire. But he told them more with bitter smile that…

“Well, in elementary, I did a lot of things, but I never did get around to doing soccer, that’s all.”

I think his bitter smile means he is thinking about the bitter past back then and the reasons why he devoted for the soccer during the middle school period. Maybe it’s relate to the certain incident during late elementary period that he will never forget. After he attended to the middle school, he decided to play soccer seriously so he will not recall that bad nightmare he was at fault.

And I assume more that when he is still the elementary schooler, he still has close relationship with Yukinoshita sisters. But after that incident during the late elementary period, he has nothing or no one he will spend time with anymore, so he chose the sport that will help him forget that nightmare, forget what he did to Yukinoshita sisters.

Hayama is satisfied in Hachiman’s suffering.

Again with the torture time. Orimoto laughed when she recalled that everyone in the closing ceremony laughed at Hachiman when he went out to receive the medal for the sport test. Even Nakasomething too. You can imagine how Hayama is feeling after he recalled some bitter past but those girls are torturing the one he hates. So while those girls are choosing products, you can see how he talks with Hachiman. In anime Zoku ep4, the important scenes were cut so you only see when he teases Hachiman about his first crush only. Just teasing is fine for me.

But when many important scenes were cut (especially this moment, the story was softer more than in LN v8) In v8, you can see his true ill will when he talks with his rival secretly.

Hayama’s smile looked like it was making fun of me. Hayama was the type to not break his smile with his good social manners, but this was the first time I had seen him having a good time.

It seems Hachiman never realize this signal since he still believes in Hayama’s image (the nice guy will never do something evil) but I can say that Hayama is very satisfied in this guy’s suffering, and it looks like although there are many obstacles earlier, his plan to make his rival to be the victim is running smoothly more than he expected. So his parade still go forward! This is the moment that made me realize Hayama’s ill will and this is the one reason why he needs Hachiman so much to this death date group and why I mentioned that he wants Orimoto and Nakasomething burn this guy to be the real victim for his own satisfaction. So although Hachiman thinks Hayama is having a good time to tease him about Orimoto, I think Hachiman is right but partly only. Hayama’s gusto is not because he is teasing Hachiman about his first crush only.

I feel that no matter he can hide his true feeling with the nice guy perfectly, when his feeling is overflowing and no one are nearby, his own true feeling will slip from his nice guy image slightly. This happen many times when he is with Hachiman, and no others.

The conclusion of Hayama and that person.

After Hayama done his evil teasing to Hachiman, he listened to his conclusion between Orimoto and him, along with the past and the present are different already. I notice that Hayama is thinking his own love story in the past too, since he is gazing somewhere faraway from the store, so it means he is diving to the past. Actually, I were confused about what he is thinking and feeling at this moment, since it can mean anything and anyone, and he didn’t call anyone’s name particularly, so decoding his remarks is very difficult.

“So basically, you’ve never really actually liked someone, huh?”

But back to Hachiman’s point of view first. When Hayama said this remark, Hachiman is paused because his words impacts him, and because he is thinking Hayama is concluding his (Hachiman) feeling [he never like someone]. But after I got the conclusion of Hayama’s remark series, I don’t think he intends to conclude Hachiman’s feeling at all, because he dove into his own past, or his own mind already.

My old assumption

Decoding Hayama’s remark series is so difficult, since he used personal pronouns (you & me). We already know well who is “me” that he mentioned, Hayama himself. But the remained pronoun “you” is mysterious. Actually, I never wonder that “you” that Hayama said, is Hachiman, since they are talking. But if “you” is Hachiman, it will not explain why Hayama said he misunderstood. Because the whole remark series of him started when he gazed somewhere faraway, should be continuously.

My new assumption

So I will rethink about “you” again. Luckily, the hint that will help me find out who is “you”, was in his action. I mentioned that he gazed to somewhere faraway before he will say the conclusion, and I thought he dove into his own past/memory. If “you” means someone in his memory? If it is like I suspect, “you” will not be Hachiman, because he was not in Hayama’s distant past. The one that lived in his memory are his own family and Yukinoshita family. And since I never find out about his family more than his parent’s careers, I will cut them out.

So the remained choice is people in the Yukinoshita family, because his parents and Yukinoshitas’ parents have close relationship. But I never find out about he and Yukinoshitas’ parents had a problem or something like that, and they are just the close friends with his parents only, so I will cut Yukinoshitas’ parents. So the remained choices are Yukinoshita sisters, his close friend, Yukinoshita Yukino (雪ノ下 雪乃) and her older sister, Haruno.

The space between Yukinoshita Haruno (雪ノ下 陽乃) & Yukinoshita Yukino (雪ノ下 雪乃). (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Rabukome wa Machigatte Iru. Oregairu My Youth Romantic Comedy Is Wrong, as I Expected. My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。 俺ガイル 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。 anime ep 8)

If you already read my Oregairu analysis that related to Hayama, you would know who I mean already, and I will conclude that Haruno is “you” that he mentioned.

But another clue that pointed that he is thinking about “Y”, was in anime, not in LN v8. The scenes that were added in anime, are the scenes when Tobe asked Hayama who is his crush (during the summer vacation), he mentioned “Y”. So it means that these scenes have some connection with what he is recalling right now. [the past between himself and “Y”]. Come to think of it, I notice while I’m writing that these scenes in anime helped me confirm what he is thinking.

So after I think Hayama is talking about her and himself, let see this choice will be consistent with the whole word series of him or not.

“So basically, you (Haruno) ’ve never really actually liked someone, huh?”
“…Both you (Haruno) and me.”
“That’s why I misunderstood.”

If my assumption about “you” is correct, you will see how close between Hayama and Haruno. I don’t mean romantic relationship or something like that, but they were very close in the past. Haruno ever told Hachiman (LN v6) that they are casual, and Hayama is like little brother to her.


Yukinoshita Haruno (雪ノ下 陽乃), the guardian of Yukinoshita Yukino (雪ノ下 雪乃). (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Rabukome wa Machigatte Iru. Oregairu My Youth Romantic Comedy Is Wrong, as I Expected. My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。 俺ガイル 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。 anime ep 10)Although Haruno told Hachiman about the close relationship between herself and Hayama, I think she didn’t feel like that. They are the casual in facade only. If you wonder what I mean, you can read more in Oregairu Analysis – “After” Yukinoshita Haruno Decides to Help Yukino. (The First Part)


But something happened in their past and her feeling toward him (Onee-san who were with her little brother and her little sister) changed. It’s possible that Hayama ever thought she would like him, had feeling for him (judged from her action toward him, it’s similar when Hachiman misunderstood about Orimoto’s feeling because her nice action toward him). That’s why he said as if she made him misunderstand and love her as the final result. But after the certain incident happened (I can say that this incident would happen before he will devote himself to the soccer during middle school, so it means this incident happened during the late elementary school), he would do something that made their close relationship (Hayama, Yukino, Haruno) shattered, and so Yukinoshitas’ feelings.

Human’s feelings can be changed by the environment around that person.

When Hayama realized that Haruno’s feeling changed because of the bad people around him and Yukino, along with his mistake at that time, her feeling changed after she knew everything. I don’t know what happened exactly, but it will connect with the only regret of him in the past (the first time he felt regret whatever that happened in the past that Yukino reminded him of that). If you read part 1 already, you would know Haruno’s feeling changed 180° if compared with her feeling in the present and her feeling toward him in his memory.

Hikigaya Hachiman (比企谷 八幡) is watching Hayama Hayato (葉山 隼人)'s expression while he finally found the conclusion of his love story. (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Rabukome wa Machigatte Iru. Oregairu My Youth Romantic Comedy Is Wrong, as I Expected. My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Oregairu Zoku My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU TOO! やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。 やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。続 俺ガイル 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。續 Ep 4)

Because it appeared that Haruno never really actually liked him.
although how close between her and himself
that’s why he misunderstood that she loves him.

This is the conclusion of Hayama from his remarks that I decoded. And that’s why after he mentioned and walked to Orimoto and her friend, Hachiman saw his sorrowful expression that it looked like he was going to cry.

Hayama would plan the place and time in advance and by himself.

Torturing Hachiman still continue although they done with shopping. We see the response of Orimoto and Nakasomething after she demands him to give an idea where to eat. After that, Hayama advised to go to the cafe across the street. Hachiman noticed Haruno is sitting at the seat for the smokers.

I assume that Hayama was the one and only who decided to come to this cafe and time they will come to this place, with many reasons.

  • If my assumption about he wants to control the environment for his multidimensional plan, he needs to decide the suitable place and time before they will have fun this day. So he will not choose the popular restaurant that Hachiman recommended since this day is Friday, many students who are tired from their study, will look for something to eat in group. He didn’t want the place where his acquaintances and even students of Sobu might go there. Because if some people saw him is having fun with two girls (ignore Hachiman completely), they would gossip about this and even use their smartphone to share what they saw. I don’t see why Hayama will go to this restaurant if that place will not provide the stable environment for his plan and will make him get trouble in the future if the gossip was promulgated.
  • He thinks they should not get anything too heavy. – This excuse is not weird to me but he is going to launch the finishing move, so the place where they serve some dish mainly that will make they full is not what he wants. Please imagine when you are going to do something that needs all courage, you would not want to eat much. If you look via his point of view, this is the place where he will launch his finishing move, so he will not eat something too heavy either. Drink is fine enough. So although this cafe might serve some dish too, but he was the one who suggested them to go to this cafe, so they will not get anything too heavy.
  • He checked his watch so often. – This is not weird behavior either since he is the popular guy who needs to take care of those girls. So checking the time so they can have fun to the utmost is the duty of the nice guy. But I think he must check his watch because of different reason. If you already read all parts of the truth(s) behind his sacrifice part 1-2, you might know that I want to say this behavior of him is consistent with whatever he will do in the end. If he will launch the finishing move in the place and the time he decided, he need to check his watch so he will not come to this cafe before or behind the schedule. Don’t forget Haruno is waiting there, and he made an appointment with some people too. It will be very stupid if he and co. didn’t come to this cafe as his schedule.
  • Haruno knows the place and the time. – When Hachiman noticed her is sitting at the place for the smokers, she has the headphones too. This item makes me know that she spent time at this cafe after she met Hachiman at some cafe, before he will go to the death date group.
    Yukinoshita Haruno (雪ノ下 陽乃) is waving to Hikigaya Hachiman (比企谷 八幡). (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Rabukome wa Machigatte Iru. Oregairu My Youth Romantic Comedy Is Wrong, as I Expected. My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Oregairu Zoku My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU TOO! やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。 やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。続 俺ガイル 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。續 Ep 4)

    She comes to see Hayama’s finishing move (there’s no headphones in anime).

    Actually I ever thought she will spy on them while they are having fun in the theater and the shopping mall since her clothes made me think she wants to be the detective, wearing the clothes that attunes with the situation her feeling, is suitable in her thought, and she came to meet with Hachiman before he will go to many places that will take some hours. But I never see her spy on them anywhere in anime Zoku ep 4, except at this cafe. So it means she didn’t spy on them at all. Her headphones answered this question.
    I assume that she knew the place and the time before Friday since she brought this headphones with her too. If she knows she needs to wait some hours until they will come to this cafe, she just bring anything that will help her kill time (like whey she brought books and headphones when she met Hachiman at the doughnut cafe (but this scene didn’t appear in anime Zoku ep3, you can check out at LN v8 or manga -Monologue- v7)).

  • His style – If you already read my analysis about his “Y” during the summer vacation and his love plan during the cultural festival, you would know that whenever he is planning something, he will not let anyone know what he wants to do. You can notice from LN v4,6.

    So I will assume that he never even let her look for the suitable place and time. When she managed to force Hachiman to this date group, it’s because Hayama tricked her to do that by using Hachiman and his own abnormal behavior (bow to Hachiman) to lure to his plan. So it means he allowed her to do that job only, not plan with him or anything more than that. If he lets her help him find the place and time, they need to discuss many things about his secret plan, so if he slipped even some tiny info that might make her realize his true intention, it’s no wonder she will not be interested anymore and walk out from his plan. I will say that it’s totally useless if Haruno didn’t watch whatever he will do in this cafe. Because he wants her to watch and… Yes, I will explain about this later, in the last part.

These are all reasons for my assumption that Hayama is the one who planning his operation, along with the place and the schedule. And tell necessary info to Haruno so she can reach to this cafe as he planed.

After Hayama stabs Hachiman enough…

After my assumption about Hayama used Orimoto and Nakasomething burn the one who he hates many times, it’s time to launch his finishing move. But before that, you would notice Hachiman’s feeling while he needs to endure with this game. This is what Hayama is aiming, to make him become the real victim for his own plan and for his own satisfaction.

Right now the characters in the cafe (exclude Hayama) are Hachiman, Orimoto, Nakasomething, Haruno. But the torture of Hachiman will not stop just because they have drinks. Those girls still run their game. But Hayama gives them his opinion. He said he is not really fond of that. Nanimachi didn’t get what he means, but she still responded his opinion. Then he said to those girls that he is talking about them, not their opinions earlier. His surprising words and expression that are not consistent, made those girls (and Hachiman) are confused. And then, the sound of footsteps can be heard from the stairs. Hayama realized who is coming here, so he stood up and greeted people who appeared, Yukino and Yuigahama.

Now, all necessary characters in his multidimensional plan are here. When he made Orimoto and Nanimachi confused, is just the prelude for his heroic performance only. It’s time for him to launch his finishing move! But I will end this part 3 for now since after this scene is climax.

Did Hayama want to help Hachiman from those girls or not?

Why did he sacrifice himself for Hachiman?

to repay what he did?

or he can’t stand those girls are looking down on him?

What was Haruno thinking and feeling after watching Hayama’s sacrifice?

How are Hachiman, Haruno, Yukino, Yuigahama, Orimoto & Nakamachi related to his plan?

What does Hayama mean when he said he has expectations of Hachiman?

There are other questions that need to be answered. If you think this post made you are getting stomach ache in what Hayama done the most,

you are misunderstanding.

The conclusion of the part 3

Why Orimoto and Nakasomething are not surprised when they saw Hachiman?

  • Hachiman noticed Orimoto and Nakasomething are not surprised he will come with them. So it means Hayama would tell them before Friday. And he would tell them after Haruno confirmed to him that Hachiman will go with them too.
  • After Haruno was successful forcing Hachiman to go the date group, she would tell Hayama about this. So Hayama would know she will come to observe why he did this, this means he was successful luring her to his plan (using Hachiman and his (Hayama) own abnormal behavior (bowed to Hachiman)).
  • Finally, after he realized that he was successful using Hachiman and Haruno to drag each other into his multidimensional plan, he can launch his secret plan in Friday. So he contacted Orimoto and Nakasomething that Hachiman will come with them too. That’s why they are not surprised when they saw Hachiman.
  • This point is my own opinion only, but I suspect that he is the one who made those girls look down on Hachiman. If he wants those girls to bully his rival, he needs to make sure that they will do that for real. So when he told them that Hachiman will come with them too, he can tell them that Hachiman wants to go with them or something like that, he (Hayama) didn’t want him to come, but Hachiman insisted he will come, so he can’t refuse.
    Hayama can trick himself or bend the truth that Hachiman insisted to come because Haruno forced him, but he can ignore about the reason why Hachiman must come. After he got call from Haruno and she told him that Hachiman will come, he (Hayama) can tell those girls that Hachiman insisted to come with them too, but of course, he didn’t tell those girls about someone and himself forced Hachiman to this date group. With this, he can make those girls feel disgusted in Hachiman. Their considerateness toward Hachiman decreased with Hayama’s own hand. Because I feel that Orimoto and Nakasomething bullied Hachiman during this date group, is… too much, more than when they did to him during the doughnut cafe, as if someone is manipulating them.

How Hayama used Orimoto and Nakasomething to make Hachiman the victim.

  • Since his inferior complex, and the heavy damage from Haruno’s rejection at the doughnut cafe are still fresh, that’s why he will torture the one who made him suffer by making that guy becomes the real victim (as he always did during the cultural festival) by using Orimoto and her friend for his own plan and self satisfaction.
  • This is the reason why he manipulated Haruno’s thought and use her to drag his rival to this date group. Those girls will do the rest, they compare himself (the most popular guy) and that guy (the least popular guy). If Hachiman is near him, those girls will look down on his rival because they compare their outer appearances.

Why is Yuigahama not with Yumiko and Ebina?

I will explain in the next part. But I will point that Yuigahama was not with Yumiko and Ebina at the shopping mall, because she would has some stuff to do.

Yumiko and Isshiki almost rain Hayama’s parade.

  • Hayama was warned by Hachiman and he might realize that Yumiko and Ebina are near. Because when Orimoto asked him what he wants to look next, he told her to just go first. So it means that he would notice his friends. He would know that if he still stays there, Yumiko might recover and confront those girls, that will ruin his plan for sure.
  • His behavior this time means he didn’t tell his friends about the date group. Because he knows that Yumiko, who has feeling for him, would not stay calm if she knows about this.
  • If you look via Hayama’s point of view, Isshiki is going to interfere his plan and when she approached to his rival, I feel that he feels uncomfortable, that’s why he deflected her attention instead. But his attempt almost failed because…
  • When Isshiki, his junior, said all of them should go somewhere together, she almost ruin his plan. Luckily, Tobe stopped her. That’s why it’s not difficult to tell them so he can chase both of them away.
  • He doesn’t want others to join this date group. Because their existences will make Orimoto and Nakasomething stop torturing his rival, and save that guy automatically.
  • He didn’t tell his friends about this date group because he doesn’t want unnecessary people to ruin his plan and he needs to control everyone that relate to his plan as much as possible.

Why did Hayama devote himself to the soccer?

From his remark, it appeared that before the elementary school, he would has many things to do (since he still has close relationship with Yukinoshita sisters and would spend time with them so often, so he didn’t concentrate to this sport). But the certain incident happened during the late elementary school and it shattered their relationship. So during the middle school, he decided to play soccer seriously so he will not recall that bad nightmare he was at fault.

Hayama is satisfied in Hachiman’s suffering.

  • While he is suffering because he is thinking the reason why he devoted to the soccer, Orimoto tortured the one he hates again. So while he and Hachiman are waiting for those girls choosing the goods, you can see he feels satisfied in Hachiman’s suffering so much (because Hayama’s behavior when he “is teasing” Hachiman secretly, is permeated the ill will toward Hachiman. His behavior is the reason why I assumed that he must bring Hachiman to this date death group so those girls will torture Hachiman). I assume that he feels better too after recalling bitter past but seeing this guy suffer instead of him.
  • I feel that no matter he can hide his true feeling with the nice guy perfectly, when his feeling is overflowing and no one are nearby, his own true feeling will slip from his nice guy image slightly. This happen many times when he is with Hachiman, and no others.

The conclusion of Hayama and that person.

  • When He dove into his own distant memory, he would not talk or find the conclusion of the love story of Hachiman, but he is thinking about his own love story instead, him and her. But his words impacted Hachiman because Hachiman thinks Hayama is concluding the love story between him and Orimoto.
  • After eliminate choices and another clue in anime, I re-assume that Hayama is thinking about himself and Haruno, the moment when they are close (as the older sister and little brother), she made him misunderstood that she liked him, but after the certain incident happened, it appeared that she never actually like him. After he found the conclusion of his love story in the past, he made the expression as if he is going to cry.

Hayama would plan the place and time in advance and by himself.

  • He wants to control the environment
  • They should not get anything too heavy. – If you look via his point of view, this cafe is the place where he will launch his finishing move, so he will not eat something too heavy either. Drink is fine enough. So although this cafe might serve some dish too, but he was the one who suggested them to go to this cafe, so they will not get anything too heavy.
  • He checked his watch so often. – If he will launch the finishing move in the place and the time he decided, he need to check his watch so he will not come to this cafe before or behind the schedule. Don’t forget Haruno is waiting there, and he made an appointment with some people too. It will be very stupid if he and co. didn’t come to this cafe as his schedule.
  • Haruno knows the place and the time. – When Hachiman noticed her is sitting at the place for the smokers, she has the headphones too. This item makes me know that she spent time at this cafe after she met Hachiman at some cafe, before he will go to the death date group. If she knows she needs to wait some hours until they will come to this cafe, she just bring anything that will help her kill time.
  • His styleWhenever he is planning something, he will not let anyone know what he wants to do. When she managed to force Hachiman to this date group, it’s because Hayama tricked her to do that by using Hachiman and his own abnormal behavior (bow to Hachiman) to lure her into his plan. So it means he allowed her to do that job only, not plan with him or anything more than that. If he lets her help him find the place and time, they need to discuss many things about his secret plan, so if he slipped even some tiny info that might make her realize his true intention, she would not be interested anymore

After Hayama stabs Hachiman enough…

Now Hachiman’s feeling when he needs to endure this game, is what Hayama is aiming, to make him become the real victim for his own plan and for his own self-satisfaction.ffff When the time has come, he gave soft but harsh opinion to those girls, he noticed people he is waiting for, are coming here, so he greeted them, Yukino and Yuigahama. And now, all necessary characters for his multidimensional plan, are here. So it’s time to launch his finishing move!

What’s next in the next part.

Actually, I am not sure the next part will be the last part or not, or I will change the post’s title because if the next part will be the last part of [Haruno’s operation fire doughnut] and [Hayama’s multidimensional plan], I am considering to change the title and other things. But that’s my homework.

Right now we reached where Hayama will launch his finishing move. What is his true intention(s) behind his sacrifice for Hachiman and bring everyone to this cafe? I will reveal everything I found in his multidimensional plan in full detail. So please read/watch Oregairu LN v8, anime Zoku ep4, manga -Monologue- v7 before you will read my next analysis.

Hayama Hayato (葉山 隼人) is going to launch the finishing move. (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Yahari Ore no Seishun Rabukome wa Machigatte Iru. Oregairu My Youth Romantic Comedy Is Wrong, as I Expected. My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Oregairu Zoku My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU TOO! やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。 やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。続 俺ガイル 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。 果然我的青春戀愛喜劇搞錯了。續 Ep 4)

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The starting point of the change in his behavior toward the person who he dislikes, because “Y” is looking for him.

In this part, I wrote how he tried to get attention from “that person” during the festival, until he was defeated by “someone”.

When his effort was tested again. I will explain why he was so upset to Hachiman.

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2 thoughts on “Oregairu Analysis – The TRUTH(s) behind Hayato’s Sacrifice for Hachiman (Part 3)

  1. MiRAGE says:

    First Blood ! Interesting :)
    Looking for continuation

    I can’t find a video showing Oregairu Zoku VN route for Haruno (really pissed XD)
    And searching around net , found some another analysis( they ship yukino x hachiman) (totally pissed off :-( ) (Still Shipping and hoping for (Haruno X Hachiman))
    And reading fanfics , they portray Haruno is a devil bitch (bad) :3

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    • YahariBento ( ^ v ') says:

      There are haruno route clip but they would be deleted because of copy…..

      People just hate what she did to yukino. If the author can make her express her true feelings, I believe people will realize she is not different from yukino, a normal human who can love & suffer because of the existence of people who have close connection with her.

      How the author will present about this is very intereting to me. :3 I can feel the storm will be attached in v12-13. But thats just my imagination.

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