After filter and find keyword, it’s possible “that person” would be the owner of monologue in Oregairu LN v10.
In “Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come Wa Machigatteiru. (やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。), Oregairu (俺ガイル)” LN v10, it’s the first time Watari-sensei wrote 3 memorandums for us to read. We don’t know who is owner of each monologue but they vent their feeling/problem that they never reveal to anyone before. (or should I say, they revealed but no one notice.)
For the first memorandum, I read many comments of a certain site that discussed who is the owner of this monologue. Some people think that person is Hikigaya Hachiman, some people think this must be Yukinoshita Yukino but no one can decide for sure. For me, I picked Yukino but when I read comments that this can be Hachiman too, I began to be not sure about my answer. So that’s why I will try to find who might be the owner of the first memorandum. And if I found the most possible answer in this analysis, I will find that the past of this character I think s/he owns this memorandum, will be consistent with things this person in this memorandum reveals or not.
- Spoiler alert!! Before proceeding more than this, I recommend you to read LN. Because the first memorandum is in LN only.
- Before you read this work, I will tell you first that the story/past of this owner is dark/heavy more than you can imagine. The painful past of a certain character lies here. So I will not stop you to read, but prepare your mind before reading this.
- All analyses in this blog are not absolutely right. Please read Attention to understand more that some posts in this blog might make you feel not well.
16/5/2020 – And I found out the final answer who owns this memorandum.
26/7/2018 – I added more filter (Priority) into this post that is one of the interesting circumstantial evidence.
Filter possible answers.
In all memorandums, I can tell the first one is the one that made me feel confused the most because after I read it many and more, I still don’t know whose monologue is this. Maybe this is a labyrinth? So instead find the answer, I should cool my head and filter possible answers.
Find who likes to read books.
In this memorandum, s/he organizes book collection. S/He reads a certain book since middle school so it means one of his/her hobbies is reading. So the next step is filtering anyone who has this hobby.
- Hikigaya Hachiman (比企谷 八幡): As a loner, reading is the best.
- Yukinoshita Yukino (雪ノ下 雪乃): When you enter her club, what she always does is reading.
- Yukinoshita Haruno (雪ノ下 陽乃): One of her hobbies is reading. And in doughnut shop (LN v8), we see there’re thick books at her table.
- Hayama Hayato (葉山 隼人): Are you surprised? I never know when he reads any books. He likes sports but reading is his hobby too.
- Hiratsuka Shizuka (平塚 静): She likes ramen and manga too.
- Ebina Hina (海老名 姫菜): Yes, as a fujoshi, reading is one of her skill (but please ask me which manga she likes to read). Her fav is LN.
- Zaimokuza Yoshiteru (材木座 義輝): He aims to be a writer, then reading (manga & LN) is necessary.
…Is it just me but it seems Watari-sensei likes to create characters who have the same hobby as his? The problem is there are many choices. What should I do?
In this memorandum, this person wants his/her true nature to be hidden. If so, the true answer is not
Haruno, Hiratsuka-sensei, or Zaimokuza.
- In the case of Hiratsuka-sensei, she shows the sincerity and carefulness sometimes, when she is talking marriage topics or she got drunk. We will see she doesn’t mind letting people see her suffering. So she is out.
- In the case of Zaimokuza, I can see the shows his determination and flaws many times. I really don’t know Zaimokuza we see in LN, is his true self at the first place or not. But if I never see he tries to hide his true (another) nature, I will count him out.
- In the case of Haruno, she has the orihalcum mask that makes people misunderstand her so easily. But she always wants someone who can understand her, or else she would not want a certain person gazes into her. She also is the type that wants someone to know her true face that leads to reaching her. You can see why I think like this from the third memorandum, it seems she is in despair and one of the reasons is she tried her best for the one she loved, to the point she becomes the perfect person to show her love and sincerity, but what she gained is different. That’s why it’s very different from wanting to hide from people with the image.
However, it’s not like Haruno and sensei are not the strong people to the point they can reveal their worries to others. That’s normal and I notice this in LN v12. For example, sensei almost tells Hachiman about something that I guess she will be going to relocate soon but she can’t say it. For Haruno’s case, after she was talking about something that means her little sister will be going to be “the adult”, Hachiman asked her if this opinion came from her own experience, she convinces him to not interest about her and continue to talk about him and her younger sister. I notice she doesn’t want to show her own state, it’s normal for a human to hide the truth like this because they will feel something heavy in their mind. So the candidates in the final round are Hachiman, Yukino, Hayama, and Ebina. They have images and want to hide their true natures.
- Hachiman – We know he is a loner and he insists he always will be, always reveals his own attitude. I, the reader, and watcher ever believed in his words. However, the
trueimage of him at the beginning until the half of the story is not like I always believe.
However, in v6, after he launches two judgments to Sagami Minami (相模 南) and Hiratsuka-sensei makes him realize that there are people who will hurt when they see him hurt. I don’t think he is strange because it’s normal but one of the reasons he can do something like that because he has no anchor in his heart because of the loneliness that he held almost times. What he did is cool at the beginning but seeing him crush his enemy because he suffers until now is not what I can see it is so cool, I just want to cry with him instead, cry to the unfairness in this world. This also makes me realize that he wants to cry to that unfairness.
Since he believes he is the loner, he never notices that other people will sorry for him. So when people were gossiping about him, all mediums show how other people (Hiratsuka-sensei, Yuigahama, Totsuka Saika (戸塚 彩加 ) and Kawasaki Saki (川崎 沙希)) were discomforted. From that time on, his image starts to melt and shows his true feeling. A normal human who yearns for the carefulness. Loner mask is just the mask he wears to survive, to continue to live but the environment around him convinced him to wear it too.
And in LN v11-12, there are many times that show how he wants to avoid some people who can see right through his original desire behind his helping people. When those people are going to touch his truth behind his action, he tries to …evade despite he knows they are right. These signs make me decide to include him in this category inevitably.
- Yukino – Creating the issue about honest and strong but melting it, made me feel that everything is changeable. It’s true she is strong, I admit but these things are not stable and were revealed to Hachiman and Yuigahama clearly in v11.
- Hayato – If you read LN (especially v8,10-11), you will see that nice actions and words can’t explain his true feeling. Things he did during the double date and the rumor can confirm that he doesn’t want people to know his will.
Oregairu Analysis – Why Does Hayama Hayato Want Him & Hikigaya Hachiman To Be Equal? And His “Silent Plan”.
In case you want to know what I wrote about him is true or not, I picked one of my posts that will show you his true nature (partly).
- Ebina – She intends to be a fujoshi clearly so other guys would avoid her. I don’t know about her past but maybe she would have some bad experience that involved with guy(s). So she created a barrier to repel guys away. However, I notice she also wants someone to understand her that is the nature of humans but how she insists to hide her true feeling makes me decide to include her to the next round.
Then, how about this quote?
I read this memorandum many times to look for any hints. I found something that can help me filter candidates and that is …this quote.
Could it have been a divine oracle, or possibly fate?
This quote is from the owner of this memorandum that beautiful words were used. “divine oracle” and “possibly fate” made me look for possible candidates. These words should be used by girl/woman more the opposite gender. For example, can you imagine Hachiman or Hayato will use these words or some words similar in his thought once? I never find out that Hachiman ever uses dignity words like these once in LN, anime & manga.
For Ebina’s case, I don’t know she uses dignity words in her thought or not. However, it’s highly possible for Yukino to use these words. I mean, she is the daughter of an elite family. When she talks with people at home, her conversations and social interactions should be in a polite manner. But this is just my opinion only.
So is this possible that the owner’s monologue should be Yukino more than Ebina or not? I am still not sure since I never have a chance to read Ebina’s monologue. I will not use just this to decide who is the owner. However, with this,
Hachiman and Hayato would not surely be the owner.
Priority – (New!)
Since I filtered until I get two characters who might be the owner the most. I considered these two people and owners of the second and third memorandums. I will not say that which characters are the owner of each memorandum for now but if you read my two analyses about those two memorandums (links are below of this post ⇓), you can remember them and take them to the consideration like this.
Yukino (the owner of 1st) ♦ the owner of 2nd ♦ the owner of 3rd
Ebina (the owner of 1st) ♦ the owner of 2nd ♦ the owner of 3rd
And I will assume that you read my two analyses about the 2nd and 3rd memorandum already so I will paste their names into these.
Yukino ♦ Hayama ♦ Haruno
Ebina ♦ Hayama ♦ Haruno
Do you think which one will be the most …correct? This filter is not solid evidence to judge who is the owner of this memorandum but I will look for which patterns are the most possible that these three characters must be the most important people in the finale. So I can’t avoid my own bias but I will consider more if the author chose which group for the last trial that he began to launched in the story of LN v10 and up clearly.
Therefore, if my bias about the finale would be involved with the former trio, Yukino, Hayama, and Haruno, this is consistent with an epilogue in anime Oregairu season2 ep10 that there are monologues between four people. So it means that Hachiman will get involved with the whirlpool that this trio (the first version – Yukinoshita sisters & Hayama). That’s why this structure makes me believe that Hachiman and Hayama also are not the owner of this memorandum because I don’t see how Hachiman will get involved with Hayama and Haruno while Yukino, the main character will not be included (except this will be the l*** triangle that it is highly possible but I still don’t see how Yukino will be excluded from helping her older sister either that will be happening in the finale), and I don’t see how it will be Hayama ♦ Hayama ♦ Haruno either. Another thing is I don’t see why WW wrote Hachiman’s memorandum if the story is his monologue at the beginning and it hid his true feelings/desire already. With all of these reasons, I think the main people who will get involved in the finale are Hachiman, Yukinoshita sisters and Hayama. So the pattern is like this. ⇓
Hachiman -> Yukino ♦ Hayama ♦ Haruno
Maybe the true answer is in that keyword.
Many people would never notice (and me too!, before) that WW wrote keywords in memorandums (at least I found in two memorandums) that point who is the true owner. Each keyword represents the symbol of the owner of each monologue and they are unnoticeable that you might not know these are keywords.
For the keyword that I mentioned before, in this monologue, this person was in the middle of cleaning with the upcoming New Year. Guess who has the birth date during New Year period?
The filtering process is finished, the final result is…
Yes, the final answer or should I say, it’s possible that the owner of the first monologue is Yukinoshita Yukino, as her birthday is 3rd January!
What’s in the second memorandum?
When I made it halfway through the second memorandum, I closed the book in a hurry and never managed to read much of it beyond that.
Why can she not finish reading the second memorandum? When I read her reason why she can’t continue, it is…
In that book, it felt as if I was getting dragged to the surface, as if my true nature that I was still continuing to hide to this day was getting exposed.
So I checked this memorandum to find what makes her closed the book because it must be about the inner nature or something. When I checked this memorandum, I admit I am still not sure this is the reason why she can’t finish the second memorandum, and I don’t know where the halfway she reached is either. But in my assumption, this might be the reason…
Ooba (the main character of this book) shows his classmate, Takeichi the ghost-like paintings of Amedeo Modigliani (Amedeo was the epitome of a tragic artist, a Jewish Italian painter, and sculptor). He realizes that some artists will express the inner truth of human cruelty through their own trauma. So with inspire by these artists, he paints a self-portrait, it appears that his work is so dreadful and he can’t show this to anyone except Takeichi.
Maybe, just maybe, if I connect the inner nature she wants to hide and the drawing that can express the inner truth of human cruelty through their own trauma, I assume this is the point she reached but can’t continue to read anymore.
Her true nature is still part of her.
So with the middle of the second memorandum of this book, she feels like it is revealing her true nature that she wants to hide until now.
the reason I was reading this book this late now was because I thought it was just something to be thrown out. I took it with my hands in astonishment.
But thinking about it even more, there was no way I could throw out this book.
To close the book is the self-defense. Anyone who suffers from painful past, it would be at least once we want to throw these memories away because we want to forget it, we don’t want that truth to be shown clearly. But since this book expresses her truth, throwing it away is like throwing something important for her away.
They say that bookshelves are a reflection of a person’s personality.
In that case, I’m sure this book was a reflection of my true nature. That’s why, the only thing I could do in the end was just put it away without tossing it and pretend as if I had never seen it.
This… shows us how she doesn’t like something about herself. Since her true nature is something she mentioned many times, I think it is the main issue of this memorandum.
Yet here I am, reaching out to it again.
Could it have been a divine oracle, or possibly fate?
I wasn’t one to take those words seriously, but it wasn’t very pleasant knowing how it seemed like I was reinforcing the notion instead by being up in arms and denying it.
I don’t need to interpret this anymore but in LN v9,10 (I forgot), since she said she is aware of her action toward her true nature, her wish that she told Hachiman during the amusement park event is interesting because it is the result of seasoning her own thoughts until she reaches that wish to save “something”.
Maybe she knows the ending of that book.
Because it’s likely that I needed to see what will happen from there on.
If she continues to read the second memorandum again, I don’t know she finish reading this book or not. But it’s possible that she would know “the conclusion” already. Ooba is doing well when the environment (people) around him is good for him. But when the bad environment comes to him again, the ending of his story is…
The question is if she knows Ooba’s fate, how is she feeling after finish reading it?
Personally, although this memorandum makes me realize some important truth or the state of the owner, I also believe that this state will not exist forever. I believe that the owner (who might or might not be Yukino) can understand her/his own value, can understand s/he doesn’t need to be like anyone. Since s/he is not unpleasant about her/his truth, changing to be like others s/he admires is one of the exits. But if she can destroy the root of her own problem, I believe she can recover her self-confidence and love herself in the end, by her own self and everyone who wish well for her.
Possible, It’s That Person’s Monologue.
Although I still believe that Yukino is the owner of this memorandum, this is my answer at the story level. Until I found out something that I will call “the deepest layer” and “the core” by analyzing this post of anime Zoku ep5. So I reviewed these three memorandums again. It appears that all 3 memorandums belong to just one person. If you want to know the owner of them, I recommend you to read the post I pasted its link because if we can’t find out that core, it’s impossible (in my opinion) to realize about that person.
After I realized that person or that being, the truth impacted me and I thought that “…So it’s like that.”. With the final answer I found, it connects to the memorandum in LN v12 that I really think that Yuigahama is the owner but it appears that if we are talking about the core level, the owner of those three memorandums also owns this memorandum.
Since I found out the core or the true person who owns these memorandums, the next question for me is “then, is it possible that characters I analyzed might be not the true answer?”. I think at this point, I can’t judge this anymore because it’s up to the creator who designed them. If the creator intends to direct characters in the story will be the owners, so it’s like that, if the creator has no that intention, so it’s not.
However, it also is possible that my work can be wrong or this is the memorandum of another character, so if you have any thoughts, you can write in Comment below. If you have more notice that I don’t know before, how about tell me too?
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